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Charles Robert SMITH (PREVIOUSLY TAYLOR-SMITH)

Charles Robert SMITH (PREVIOUSLY TAYLOR-SMITH)

Male 1907 - 1977  (69 years)

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  • Name Charles Robert SMITH (PREVIOUSLY TAYLOR-SMITH) 
    • Mum (Joan Natalie (Smith) Mclean third and last daughter of Charles Robert Smith says he was once a Taylor-Smith. She cant remember when he dropped the Taylor part but thinks it was in his married life period. Not certain. She states he was youngest of 13 children-Note by Researcher Lorna Mclean 09 Apr 2020
    Born 16 Mar 1907  Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4] 
    • Mum (Joan Natalie (Smith) Mclean third and last daughter of Charles Robert Smith says he was once a Taylor-Smith. She cant remember when he dropped the Taylor part but thinks it was in his married life period. Not certain. She states he was youngest of 13 children-.
    Christened 23 Apr 1907  Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Christening DATE:St Andrews Church Walkerville Adelaide SA father:William Taylor-Smith source: www.australia births and baptisms, 1792-1981, database. FHL microfilm 951,898. Indexing project batch No102025-5, System origin Asutralia-Easy, GS Film No 951898
    Gender Male 
    Marriage/Wedding 17 Mar 1928  Unley SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    At onset of great depression. Source Joan Natalie McLean (nee Smith-youngest child) 
    • Noone talked of funerals in those days, it was only when the girls were in their teens they realised that when mum (Glady Irene Smith (nee Stoyel) wore her grey hat and left them home was she attending a funeral.
    Biography Notes 1931  Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    Charles is the youngest of 13 children. 
    • I have the details of said 12 siblings. Source:SA 1836-1885 Encyclopaedia of SA Book 2 M-Z. page785 First child, James Stephen17.12.1882, Minnie Noble5.3.1884, Elsie12.11.1885, Forence Edith2.10.1887, Rebecca19.4.1889, Ethal27.9.1890, Phoebe20.3.?1893?, Richard Allen4.9.1895, Albert Victor2.6.1897, Maggie Elizabeth Maple15.10.1901, Charles Robert16.3.1907, Violet Ellena18.1.1903
    Biography Notes c1935  Woodville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    Never went to WWII because of ear complaint/surgery in married life. In Woodville SA, when Joan Natalie Smith remembers being around 4yoa (=1935) when Charles "Dad" arrived home in Ambulance stretcher after an ear operation.
    Received a white feather in letterbox during war. 
    Divorced 10 Apr 1952  Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Joan just remembers the peace in the house after his departure. She remembers she was 14yoa. Formal Divorce 1952- Adelaide News (broadprint) wrote DIVORCE ORDER a reserved judgment, Mr. Justice Reed. in the Supreme Court today,granted an order nisi for divorce to Charles Robert Smith, of Payneham Road, Payneham, against Gladys Irene Smith, of Light Street, Exeter, for desertion Mr. Harry Alderman, QC, with Mr. J. R. Alder man, appeared for Smith. Thursday, April _10,:1952
     
    Occupation c1920's  Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    Cabinet Maker, French Polisher, Wood machinist 
    Died 1977  Adelaide SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7] 
    Buried
    • Buried North Road Cemetery with his second wife.
    Person ID I-7818  Christina and Donald McLean
    Last Modified 6 Feb 2022 

    Father William Taylor TAYLOR-SMITH,   b. 6 Feb 1854, Kent UK Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 May 1937, Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 83 years) 
    Relationship -2689 
    Mother Sarah Jane STICKLES,   b. 15 Oct 1864, Port Augusta SA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Jul 1944, Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years) 
    Relationship -2689 
    Note 12 Jul 1863  Adelaide SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [8] 
    Emigrated to Australia on the "Orient"
     
    Married 10 Jan 1882  Port Augusta SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 10] 
    • SAGENEALOGY.COM.AU states wedding at District Frome SA. Details on member entry of SAGENEALOGY.COM.AU state wedding at residence of brides mother at Port Augusta SA.
    Family ID F-2689  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Gladys Irene STOYEL,   b. 16 Mar 1909, Macclesfield SA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Jun1967, Morphettville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 58 years) 
    Married 17 Mar 1928  Walkerville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    Divorced 10 Apr 1952  [12, 13] 
    • Formal Divorce 1952- Adelaide News (broadprint) wrote DIVORCE ORDER a reserved judgment, Mr. Justice Reed. in the Supreme Court today,granted an order nisi for divorce to Charles Robert Smith, of Payneham Road, Payneham, against Gladys Irene Smith, of Light Street, Exeter, for desertion Mr. Harry Alderman, QC, with Mr. J. R. Alder man, appeared for Smith. Thursday, April _10,:1952
    Residence c1930s  Rosebury SA Find all individuals with events at this location  [12] 
    Combined memories of maternal and paternal parents during their upbringing during the 1930's - 1950's where both sister were married within six mos of each other. Where it matched a family type production of some 80 pages of links THE JOHN AND SARAH KANALEY DESCENDANTS. No formal printing, no ISBN number nor printers name; just family remembering. Created in the 1990's with some now added hand notes and dates. Compilers of the story have now passed on. No names available. Redmond St Rosebury SA  
    Children 
     1. Irene Joyce SMITH,   b. 19 Sept 1928, Adelaide SA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Mar 1950, Adelaide SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 21 years)  []
    +2. Flora-May SMITH,   b. 19 May 1930, Adelaide SA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Oct 2016, Morphettville SA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years)  []
    +3. Joan Natalie SMITH,   b. 28 Sep 1931, Nailsworth SA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Nov 2022, Albany WA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 91 years)  []
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2021 20:10:13 
    Family ID F-668  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Ellen WILLIAMS,   d. 31 Dec 1998, Adelaide SA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 8 Oct 2017 09:47:34 
    Family ID F-2776  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
    Charles Robert Smith (Mick) father of Joan Natalie McLean nee Smith 3876.jpg    		Charles Robert Smith (Mick) father of Joan Natalie McLean nee Smith 3876.jpg
    Charles Robert Smiths mum was a Taylor-Smith and the name stuck for 2-3 generations prior to Charles who then opted to revert to just Smith in Mums lifetime; Joan Natalie McLean -I3876 profile

    SMITH family children at Victor Harbour 1943+ 2sisters of Charles Robert Smith

    Headstones

    HS SMITH Charles Robert d.8Sep1977 Adelaide SA and 2wife

    HS Charles Robert Smith c1972

    HS Charles Robert Smith second wife and family

  • Sources 
    1. [S-11] Birth record attached to this profile.

    2. [S-75] BDM SA, https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=32, 20.1.2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
      Born:1907: SMITH,Charles Robert, father:William Taylor, SMITH:Sarah Jane STICKELLS at Adelaide SA, Reg No:780/421
      No other known evidence of BDM. Followup this website source to generalise the accuracy of this information & spellchecks

    3. [S-85] PUBLICATION "South Australians 1836-1885 BK 2 M-Z", SA Genealogy and Heraldry Society, 785 (Reliability: 1), 10 Feb 2017 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
      complete entry of Sarah Jane Stickells birth, death, marriage to William Taylor-Smith, includes all children.

      NOTE AT END OF RECORD; STATES Sara Jane buried as SMITH. Contributor;S163U

    4. [S-52] http://ancestry.com.au, ancestry.co.au with log in , 9 Apr 2020 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
      Charles Robert Smith Birth Date:16 Mar 1907 Birth Place: South Australia Registration Year:1907-1916 Registration Place: South Australia, Australia Father:Smith Page Number:421

    5. [S-16] FM Joan Natalie Smith and Flora May Whaley-evidence provided , Researcher Lorna McLean (Reliability: 2), 15 Feb 2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
      Chatting of memories of their parents, Joan Natalie and Flora-May Smith sisters in November 2016
      PUBLIC NOTICE: Before using, ANY details from this website ensure YOU further research the accuracy of our information to limit the effect of misdirection by any compounded human error.

    6. [S-75] BDM SA, 20.1.2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
      Death:1977, The Advertiser (source) Charles Robert SMITH
      No other known evidence of BDM. Followup this website source to generalise the accuracy of this information & spellchecks

    7. [S-10] Headstone detail transcription, 11 Mar 2018 Researcher Lorna McLean.
      headstone;

    8. [S-85] PUBLICATION "South Australians 1836-1885 BK 2 M-Z", SA Genealogy and Heraldry Society, 785 (Reliability: 1), 10 Feb 2017 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
      S 766 entry for SMITH/TAYLOR-SMITH William
      Correct to encyclopaedia content

    9. [S-85] PUBLICATION "South Australians 1836-1885 BK 2 M-Z", SA Genealogy and Heraldry Society, 785 (Reliability: 1), 10 Feb 2017 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
      Page785 coded entry:S766 entry for SMITH/TAYLOR-SMITH William m to Sarah Jane Stickells
      Correct to Encyclopaedia of South Australians content

    10. [S-75] BDM SA, https://www.genealogysa.org.au requires log in , 9 Jan 2021 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
      Sarah Jane Smith (born Stickells) Female Birth Oct 15 1864 Port Augusta, South Australia Marriage Jan 10 1882 Port Augusta, South Australia Death 1944 South Australia Burial Nailsworth, South Australia Parents Stephen Stickells Sarah Noble Maple Husband William Taylor Smith
      Children: Maggie Elizabeth Maple Maraun (born Smith) Ethel Painter (born Smith) Minnie Noble Painter (born Smith)
      Elsie Painter (born Smith) Violet Ellena Press (born Smith)
      Allan Smith Stephen Smith Henry Smith Rebecca Smith Florence Edith Hales (born Smith)

    11. [S-75] BDM SA, https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=32, 20.1.2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
      Groom Surname: SMITH Charles Robert Bride Surname: STOYEL
      Bride Given Names: Gladys Irene Marriage Date: 17-Mar-1928
      Marriage Place: St Andrews Church Walkerville SA Groom Age: 21 Groom Marital Status: S Groom Father: William Taylor SMITH Bride Age: 18 Bride Marital Status: S Bride Father: Oswald Gwen STOYEL District: Adelaide SA Book/Page: 314/837
      No other known evidence of BDM. Followup this website source to generalise the accuracy of this information & spellchecks

    12. [S-75] BDM SA, https://www.genealogysa.org.au/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid=32, 20.1.2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
      Youngest daughter, Joan Natalie McLean nee Smith in 1996 told her second daughter, Lorna McLean that her father Charles Robert Smith and Gladys Irene Stoyel, were later divorced after her father was officially charged with abandoning the family. Reported in the newspaper. 25 Sept 1996 Researcher Lorna Mclean
      No other known evidence of BDM. Followup this website source to generalise the accuracy of this information & spellchecks

    13. [S-24] https://findmypast.com.au, find my past will require log on, 23 May 2021 Lorna McLean Researcher.
      Charles Robert Smith Marital status Single/Spinster
      Age 21 Birth year 1907 Marriage year 1928
      Marriage date 17 Mar 1928
      Place St Andrews Church Walkerville Adelaide SA
      Father's first name(s) William Taylor
      Father's last name Smith
      Spouse's first name(s) Gladys Irene
      Spouse's last name Stoyel
      Spouse's marital status Single/Spinster
      Spouse's age 18 Spouse's birth year 1910
      Spouse's father's first name(s) Oswald Gwen
      Spouse's father's last name Stoyel
      Registration number 314/837
      Notes Additional information is on the certificate but not recorded in this index
      Record set South Australia Marriages 1842-1937
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Marriages & divorces
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand


  

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