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...do YOUR families link back to first South Australian wheat growers?
Christina and Donald McLEAN from Scotland 1837
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1919 - 2000 (80 years)
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Name |
Archibald Edward Donald Mark BRABANT [1] |
Suffix |
Staff Sergeant |
Born |
1 Sep 1919 |
Narrabeen NSW [1, 2] |
Gender |
Male |
Military Service |
1939-1945 |
Narrabeen NSW |
Australian Army NX130012 (N29306) Date of Birth: 1 Sep 1919, NARRABEEN,NSW Date of Enlistment: 15 Oct 1942 NARRABEEN, NSW
Place of Enlistment BOGGABRI, NSW
Next of Kin:BRABANT, ALBERT Date of Discharge 26 Feb 1946 Rank Staff Sergeant Posting at Discharge 3 Advance Ordnance Depot
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Biography Notes |
1959 |
West End Qld |
Facebook GROUP GENEALOGY ADDICTS ANON with assistance from several-though "Susan Hayden Stubbs" of NSW offers:Australia Electoral Rolls Transcription 1959
Archibald Edward Donald Mark:Brabant:Sex Male Birth year 1919 Occupation Representative
Year 1959 Number576, Address:17 Ganges St, West End Place Sub-district Kurilpa
District Griffith Queensland Australia
Record Set:Australia Electoral Rolls, Census, Land & Surveys |
Biography Notes |
1980 |
Kellyville NSW [3] |
Facebook Group page interactions with "Fay Gascoigne".. then he turned up back in NSW 1980 with a new wife Norma Ann living at 3 Acres RD Kellyville NSW later that year he turns up in Canberra with Norma Ann there are trees in Ancestry but they were private... |
Occupation |
1950's |
Queensland [3] |
Facebook interactions with Fay Gascoyne ... he moved around a bit in the 40's was in NSW then found him on Census in QLD from 1954 to 1977 in 1958 Oriele was on the census also 58 to 77 in 1977 also was a Lynn Douglass Brabant living with them. |
Died |
20 Feb 2000 |
Canberra ACT [4] |
Person ID |
I-2507 |
Christina and Donald McLean | Ewen (Hugh the elder) McLean's descendants |
Last Modified |
25 Aug 2019 |
Father |
Albert Edward BRABANT, b. 7 Dec 1887, Paddington NSW , d. 6 Dec 1972, Narrabeen NSW (Age 84 years) |
Relationship |
-827 |
Mother |
Mary Margaret MCLEAN, b. 28 Oct 1885, Monavale NSW , d. 22 Sep 1962, Chatswood NSW (Age 76 years) |
Relationship |
-827 |
Married |
25 May 1911 |
Narrabeen NSW [5, 6, 7, 8] |
- The BRB has Albert and Mary getting married in 1911 whereas Louise Johnson has found a BMD record of their marriage in 1916 in Sydney. Since the BRB relied on word of mouth, altered NSW BDM record.
- EMAIL FROM STEPHENANDLOUISE DATED 26TH JAN 2018 TO LADYJ:How did someone find a marriage between Albert and Mary in 1911 when the BDM has their marriage in 1916? This is extract from BRB Page 220 only states the dates with limited evidence of FM=family memories. ?Mary Margaret Mclean born 20/10/1885 at the "Rock Lily Tavern". Mona Vale which was then the staging post for the northern coast. Donald built a small wooden house at Narrabeen where there is now [1996] a median strip of a 6 lane highway. It eventually became the back scullery and laundry for the 2 storey brick house already mentioned as being both home and post office until the new one was erected, Information from Betty O'Gorman, dau of Kindor McLean//
Married: Albert Brabant c1911 and was if Narrabeen NSW
Death: Mary died in her 77th year on 22/9/1962?
How was Sheila McLean linked with Albert and Mary? There is no record of her birth in the
NSW BDM, which is highly likely if she was illegitimate, but the birthplace of Thirroul is
puzzling.
RHETORICAL of course.
- EMAIL dated 05.10.2018 from Stephenandlouise@bigpond.com actually Louise Johnson.
"It has been some timesince i spoke to you about Mary Margaret McLean and Albert Edward Brabant. I have been sharing my research time between 5 family trees and it has taken a while but have new information. Details DOM 25.05.1916. place The Central Methodist Mission, groom Albert Edward Brabant, Occupation motor driver, usual residence, Narrabeen , a bachelor aged 29. The bride, Mary Margaret McLean, home duties, usual residence Narrabeen,spinster, aged 29. Death Certificate, NSW BDM Registration No32269/1962 copy certificate no 132249 from probate packet. NAME Mary Margaret Brabant, DOD 22.9.1962 usual residence Narrabeen,
1st marriage, at Sydney 24yoa to ? McGuinness, issue ONE, Sheila aged 51yoa.
2nd marriage, Sydney aged 27to Albert Edward Brabant, issue, Jessie M 46yoa, Amy 44yoa, Archibald E 42yoa, Florence N 40yoa, Mary J 38yoa none deceased.
No birth nor marriage certificate was found for Sheila-her marriage certificate names her Sheila McLean.
- family search indicates married about 1911 which concurs with a source 1911
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Family ID |
F-827 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
Oriole DOUGLASS, b. 21 Feb 1916, West End Qld , d. 2 Dec 1977, Fairfield Qld (Age 61 years) |
Married |
1950's |
Queensland [9] |
Last Modified |
29 Jan 2018 08:25:55 |
Family ID |
F-831 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Sources |
- [S-3] PUBLICATION BRB 'Donald & Christina McLean & Their Descendants', 1995 copies available, Copies of the BRB available Strathalbyn National Trust Museum & Library, several libraries around Australia including State Library SA, and Western Australian Genealogical Society Bayswater WA Request assistance for locating a copy through 'Contact us' on this website. .
- [S-140] FACEBOOK-Genealogy Addicts Anon Group, https://www.facebook.com/groups/107640276041406/permalink/1012430148895743/?comment_id=1012455058893252&reply_comment_id=1012465535558871¬if_id=1517064513623130¬if_t=group_comment_mention&ref=notif, 27 Dec 2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
Interaction with "Fay Gascoigne" Hi Lorna Mclean I found Archibald Edward Donald Mark Brabant birth 1-9-1919 Narrabeen NSW father Albert was a plumber he enlisted in the Army 1939-1948 NX130012 B883 2nd AIf you can chase that record up on National Archives Australia ... he moved around a bit in the 40's was in NSW then found him on Census in QLD from 1954 to 1977 in 1958 Oriele was on the census also 58 to 77 in 1977 also was a Lynn Douglass Brabant living with them.. then he turned up back in NSW 1980 with a new wife Norma Ann living at 3 Acres RD Kellyville NSW later that year he turns up in Canberra with Norma Ann there are trees in Ancestry but they were private...
- [S-140] FACEBOOK-Genealogy Addicts Anon Group, https://www.facebook.com/groups/107640276041406/permalink/1012430148895743/?comment_id=1012455058893252&reply_comment_id=1012465535558871¬if_id=1517064513623130¬if_t=group_comment_mention&ref=notif, 27 Dec 2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
various interactions with three different FB GAA assisting here.
- [S-99] http://ryersonindex.org/search.php, http://ryersonindex.org/search.php, 24 Jan 2018 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
BRABANT Archibald (Archie) Death notice 20FEB2000 Death 80yoa Canberra Times 22FEB2000
- [S-106] BDM NSW, http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx, 6 Jan 2018 Researcher Lorna Mclean.
Married 1916 incomplete dates only provided on NSW BDM-must purchase certificate to complete the date. REFERENCE No5095/1916
- [S-136] FM Louise Johnson Emails Jan 2018 evidence pending, Email on 27th Jan 2018, 27 Dec 2017 Researcher Lorna McLean.
Confirmed by email from Louise Johnson dated 27.1.2018 to lj2333 aligning to current findings of marriage in 1916
RegNo5095/1916
NOTE:Sheila Florence Brabant born in 1912 is confirmed with these parents.
- [S-3] PUBLICATION BRB 'Donald & Christina McLean & Their Descendants', 1995 copies available, Copies of the BRB available Strathalbyn National Trust Museum & Library, several libraries around Australia including State Library SA, and Western Australian Genealogical Society Bayswater WA Request assistance for locating a copy through 'Contact us' on this website. , page 220, 26 Jan 2018 Researcher Lorna McLean.
Page220 only states the dates with limited evidence of FM=family memories.
"Mary Margaret Mclean born 20/10/1885 at the "Rock Lily Tavern". Mona Vale which was then the staging post for the northern coast. Donald built a small wooden house at Narrabeen where there is now [1996] a median strip of a 6 lane highway. It eventually became the back scullery and laundry for the 2 storey brick house already mentioned as being both home and post office until the new one was erected, Information from Betty O'Gorman, dau of Kindor McLean// Married: Albert Brabant c1911 and was if Narrabeen NSW
Death:Mary died in her 77th year on 22/9/1962"
- [S-121] Family Search.org -------C & D McLean, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:9XBP-8Q3, 28 Feb 2019 Researcher Lorna McLean.
MARRIAGE:Albert Brabant B. 1881
at, Narrabeen, New South Wales, Australia
MARRIAGES (1) Mary Margaret McLean
Marriage 1911 at , Narrabeen, New South Wales, Australia CITATON The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "International Genealogical Index (IGI)," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:9XBP-8Q3 : accessed 19 February 2019), entry for Mary Margaret McLean; submitted by Colinralphwhitehead7 [identity withheld for privacy]; no source information is available.
- [S-136] FM Louise Johnson Emails Jan 2018 evidence pending, Email dated 27 Jan 2018 to ladyj, 30 Jan 2018 Researcher Lorna McLean.
Assumed married between 1954-58. No evidence yet.
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